Can you cloudshift fiend hunter

This real world situation also has Wall of Omens for a bit of card draw and blinking that puppy feeds that hand even more so. Viscera Seer 's a cute play where when that Sculler or Fiend hits the board he can sac it before it resolves, banishing your card into exile before you knew what hit you.

Buy from Card Kingdom. Buy from Cardhoarder. Buy from TCGplayer. Rent from Cardhoarder. Creatures 29 4 Viscera Seer 0. Creatures 29 4 Viscera Seer 4 Comm. Calculating the deck price based on your collection Mana Values. Card Types Creature Instant Artifact 0 7 14 21 What are you supposed to do? It's mean, I know. It's harsh. Say you put the leaves-the-battlefield trigger on first, and then the new EtB trigger on after, targeting Creature B.

So now we let everything resolve. The leaves-the-battlefield trigger of the first Fiend Hunter resolves, but the first Fiend Hunter hasn't exiled anything yet, so nothing happens. The final state is that both A and B are exiled, and they can get B back by killing Fiend Hunter, but A is gone for good. While no one overhear you quickly tell me not cow cow. Re: Magic the Gathering: Ask a Judge Post by ElFuzzy » 01 May , Does cloudshifting a card create a new instance of it or is it still considered the same card?

I guess it's a new instance if it removes counters and other such stuff. Non-obvious things that don't make it a new object: Phasing, morphing, flipping screw you, Kamigawa block , transforming which is different from morphing, cause shut up. Probably some other things. The card just modifies the rule that removes counters from each card as it changes zones. Re: Magic the Gathering: Ask a Judge Post by Del » 01 May , Is the new Strive mechanic considered an alternate casting cost for the purposes of if it were to gain Flashback thus meaning that it could only have a single target when cast from the gy , or is Strive treated more like kicker.

I believe it is the former but I am unsure if Strive has officially been named a form of 'alternate casting cost' under the rules yet. Re: Magic the Gathering: Ask a Judge Post by ElFuzzy » 01 May , I think it's not an alternate per say, since you can theoretically target an unlimited number of targets if you had the mana. It's not phrased as, "in addition" or even a "may. Have the comprehensive rules been updated yet?

Re: Magic the Gathering: Ask a Judge Post by korvys » 01 May , I believe you should be able to target as many things as you want and can pay for if you flashback a strive card. It's an ability that adds additional costs based on your choice of targets, and things that add additional costs think Thalia apply to flashback cards as well.

Last edited by Del on 01 May , , edited 1 time in total. Re: Magic the Gathering: Ask a Judge Post by phlip » 01 May , Strive is an additional cost, based on how it's worded on the card. It's very unlikely that the new MCR will change that, as Strive is just an ability word, not a keyword with actual rules baggage - all the relevant information is in the rules text on the card. The only mention of Strive in the MCR will likely be adding it to the list of ability words.

And yes, if you give a Strive spell flashback, you can target as many things as you want, and you would have to pay the strive cost in addition to the flashback cost for each target after the first. Re: Magic the Gathering: Ask a Judge Post by Utilitarian » 02 May , If I have Dictate of Erebos on the battlefield, and I use an ability or cast a spell which involves sacrificing a creature and also targetting a creature my opponent controls let's say Eater of Hope's second ability , will my Dictate of Erebos force my opponent to sacrifice a creature or creatures before the ability targets, or will my opponent be able to see which of his creatures I am targetting and then just sacrifice those creatures to the Dictate of Erebos trigger?

Look at the cards. See rule , "Linked Abilities. I don't see how this is different than say, an unsummon or kill spell on the Fiend Hunter… the LTB ability has to know which card was exiled when it resolves even if the Fiend Hunter is no longer on the battlefield.

You are correct. I have edited my answer. Sign up or log in Sign up using Google. Sign up using Facebook. Sign up using Email and Password. Post as a guest Name. Email Required, but never shown. Featured on Meta. Now live: A fully responsive profile. Linked 5. Related 5. Yes, you can block with the creature you Cloudshifted. Sinobite When you target something that would gain control of that target, and someone else Cloudshifts it, the trigger that both exiles it and returns it to the battlefield goes on the stack.

It resolves. Now the previous spell has to resolve. It checks for legal targets and sees that the permanent it was targeting is no longer on the battlefield. It fizzles. Cloudshift isn't targeting a spell on the stack and I'm not sure why you are under that impression. Cloudshift is targeting a permanent on the battlefield -- notably, it is targeting the same permanent that, in your scenario, Traitorous Blood or Murder is targeting.

For those spells to resolve, the permanent they were targeting must be on the battlefield at This is the first card I've ever wanted more than four of in my decks. Speednat Cast Fiend Hunter , as it comes into play, its first ability goes onto the stack.